There isn’t a day that goes by that we don’t hear about the Kardashians. The reality television family has always got something dramatic going on, and with that many family members, it’s not difficult to keep viewers entertained. But the other side of the family- aka. the Jenners- are a lot less talked about.

Kris Jenner married Caitlyn Jenner, then known as Bruce, in 1991. Bruce already had four kids from two marriages. She shares daughter Cassandra and son Burt with her ex-wife Chrystie Jenner, who she was with from 1972 to 1981. She then has sons Brody and Brandon with ex-wife Linda Thompson, who she stayed married to from 1981 to 1986.

Of course, Caitlyn famously went on to have daughters Kylie and Kendall with Kris and was also a step-parent to the Kardashian kids until their divorce in 2015. Even though the Jenners may not be as in the public eye as the Kardashians (with the exception of Kylie, that is), they’re definitely not lacking in the drama. Keep reading to discover twenty things they wish fans would just forget about.

20 70-Year Old Caitlyn Wants More Kids Via Surrogate

This past August, Caitlyn was in the headlines after sources said the almost-70-year old was looking into having kids via surrogate with her girlfriend, 22-year old Sophia Hutchins.

“Caitlyn and Sophia have spoken about starting a family together for the last year or so,” a source told The Mirror. “And while Caitlyn’s already got ten [biological and step] children, she’s never had the chance to bring a child up in the role of a mother, which she’s always dreamed of doing,” Of course, the rumors were met with controversy, especially given Cait’s strained relationship with her other kids.

19 But She Abandoned Her Older Children

Caitlyn was divorced twice with four kids by the time she married Kris Jenner. But she admittedly didn’t stay involved in her older kids’ lives after her divorces. While Cait has tried to get closer to her adult kids in recent years, especially since her transition, things still sound rocky. “I have a lot of children, but sometimes just because of circumstances, maintaining a close relationship with your kids is very tough,” Cait told Broadly. “They've all moved on.”

18 Kylie’s Baby Daddy Has A Criminal History

Kylie seems happier than ever with her current beau, Travis Scott, whom she shares 19-month old daughter Stormi with. However, the rapper doesn’t have a squeaky-clean background. In May of 2017, Travis was criminally charged after inciting a riot at his Arkansas concert. He’s also gotten in trouble for his driving, including a car accident in which he crashed a luxury car he was renting.

17 Brandon’s GF Was Pregnant Weeks After His Divorce

It was only weeks after Brandon officialized his divorce from Leah Jenner, after over a decade together, that he announced his new girlfriend Cayley Stoker was pregnant- with twins, nonetheless. It’s unclear if the two got together while Brandon was still with Leah, whom he shares 3-year old daughter Eva with.

“We are at 12 weeks now, so near the end of the first trimester,” Brandon told People this August, adding there are no hard feelings between him and his ex. “We’re madly in love and we are very excited about this!”

16 Kylie Shouldn’t Be Behind The Wheel

Kylie has gotten into various trouble while on the road. Only two weeks after getting her driver’s license, the star caused a three-car collision. Luckily, no one was injured. Then, after receiving a Ferrari for her 18^th birthday, Kylie got into a car accident that totally the vehicle beyond repair. The makeup mogul has been cited for speeding and illegal U-turns, which is probably why she and Stormi now use a chauffeur to drive around.

15 Caitlyn Has Also Had Road Issues

In 2015, Caitlyn caused a disastrous car accident after she rear-ended the car ahead of her. At one point, it was expected the reality star would face criminal charges for her part in the collision, but her legal team was able to resolve the issue last year without going to court. According to ABC News, the celebrity had to pay a total of $800,000 in order to settle it.

14 Kendall & Kylie Don’t Understand How Licensing Works

The Kardashian-Jenners are the queens of NDAs and lawsuits, so it was surprising when Kendall and Kylie launched a line of vintage t-shirts in 2017 without the proper licensing. The shirts featured images from big names like Tupac Shakur, Notorious B.I.G., and Ozzy Osbourne. The girls were faced with lawsuit threats from the estates of many of the celebrities involved in the scandal. Within days, their website stopped selling the shirts and they eventually offered a public apology amid the extreme public (including celebrity) backlash.

13 Kendall Is Hated In The Modeling World

While she comes across as down-to-earth, some insider sources have said Kendall is a mean girl in real life. After the 2015 Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show, for instance, one source told In Touch that Kendall had seriously rubbed the other girls the wrong way. “Most of the girls winked or high-fived when they passed each other on the runway… nobody did that with Kendall,” the source said. “The other girls think that Kendall became a famous model solely because of her family.”

12 Caitlyn Skipped Her Son Brody’s Wedding

Even though they’re now divorcing, Brody Jenner and Kaitlyn Carter tied the knot in an elaborate ceremony last year. However, there was one important guest missing- Brody’s dad, Caitlyn. It’s unclear why she missed the nuptials, but her son doesn’t sound impressed, as he told TMZ he won’t be sending photos or videos of the wedding to those who didn’t make it.

11 Kylie Broke Up A Family

Before she fell for Travis Scott, Kylie was with fellow rapper Tyga. The timeline of their romance is unclear, as they began hanging out when Kylie was only a teen. They eventually went public with their romance when she turned 18 and legal. However, rumour has it that Tyga left his baby mama Blac Chyna to date the Jenner sister. Chyna went on to have a daughter with Rob Kardashian, Kylie's brother, seemingly to get back at the makeup mogul.

10 Caitlyn Didn’t Tell Her Family She Was Transitioning

Caitlyn didn’t tell any of her family- the Kardashians or Jenners- about her gender reassignment until she spoke to the media. She says it was because she was scared her secret would get leaked, but her family was understandably hurt by the decision.

“It’s none of their businesses. I had already been living as Caitlyn for a year and a half, OK? I didn’t want them to leak it to the press, okay?” Cait said while defending herself on Life Stories. “There was no reason for them to know about it, of course, I didn’t trust them.”

9 Kylie Changed Her Lips For A Boy

It took Kylie years to admit she’d gotten lip fillers, even though the photos spoke a thousand words. However, when she finally revealed her secret enhancements, she explained she originally altered her lips because of a boy. Evidently, the guy she liked said, “I didn’t think you would be a good kisser because you have such small lips.” Little did that boy know his unkind words would launch a billion-dollar empire.

8 The Time Kendall Forgot To Tip

While Kendall may be one of the least dramatic people in her family, she made headlines when a New York server took to social media to accuse her of not tipping. The waiter posted a photo of the $24 bill on Twitter. After much backlash, Kendall responded via social media to say she tipped in cash, though some fans found it to be too convenient of an excuse.

7 Linda Dated Elvis Presley For Years

Caitlyn was married to actress Linda Thompson from 1981 to 1986 and together they share two sons, Brandon and Brody Jenner. Before they got together, however, Linda was romantically involved with the one and only Elvis Presley. The two were partners from 1972 to 1976. They met through her brother Sam, who worked as a bodyguard for the rock star. He passed away a year after their break-up.

6 Kylie’s Business Standards Are Questionable

Even though Kylie Cosmetics is set to become a billion-dollar business soon, it hasn’t been without controversy. Soon after the mega-brand launched, reports said the conditions in their factories and their treatment of employees weren’t up to professional standards. Likewise, customers began receiving defective products or packages with no products at all. While Kylie’s business seems to be getting better reviews today, it was rough going for a while.

5 Caitlyn Called Kylie & Kendall A Burden

Caitlyn made some eyebrow-raising remarks about her youngest daughters, Kylie and Kendall, this past January. Speaking on the show Life Stories, she practically called her girls a burden. “I don’t talk to the Kardashians anymore. The only ones I am concerned about are Kendall and Kylie. They are my biological kids. I spent 23 years carting them around,” Cait said. Harsh!

4 Kendall Has Severe Anxiety & Sleep Issues

Kendall’s struggle with anxiety has been widely documented on Keeping Up with the Kardashians. In 2016, she admitted onscreen to mom Kris Jenner that she was regularly experiencing sleep paralysis and panic attacks. Kenny has since sought professional help and says breathing exercises have greatly helped her.

"I'm freaking out because recently I wake up in the middle of the night and I can't move," she told her mom in the clip. "I'm done arguing with people because everyone says I'm fine, but I don't feel fine. And I promise you one day when I'm rushed to the hospital then you guys are gonna wake up."

3 Kylie Keeps Stealing Other People’s Artwork

She may only be 22 years old, but Kylie has been subject of various lawsuits in her young life. They often involve the star taking inspiration from artists to use on her brand without giving proper credit. In 2016, for instance, a makeup artist came forward to point out the similarities in her art and Kylie Cosmetic’s new campaign. Similarly, the following year, another artist accused Kylie of ripping off her work to use on her reality show Life of Kylie.

2 Avril Lavigne Was Almost Part Of The Family

It may seem like a weird pairing, but Brody Jenner was once in a serious relationship with pop-punk singer Avril Lavigne. The two dated from 2010 to 2012, shortly after the singer’s divorce from Derek Whibley. She went on to marry Nickelback crooner Chad Kroeger, while Brody unofficially married Kaitlynn Carter, though both of their marriages failed to last.

1 Kendall Doesn’t Want To Be Associated With Her Family

For years, sources have said Kendall has tried to distance herself from her family’s famous last name. She tried simply going as ‘Kendall’ to help her modeling career and isn’t as active on social media as her sisters. This past August, a source told Gossip Cop Kendall was looking to take a ‘break’ from her famous fam.

"Kendall says she's taking a break from everyone except Kylie [because] she wants to focus on her career and her life,” the insider explained.

Sources: People, Page Six, Gossip Cop, Us Weekly, In Touch, Radar Online